Money Laundering, Doug Graham, & Lying About It?

I have been meaning to post this for a while, but been busy with other projects.  I haven’t properly finished it so it may not come across in the right way or how I mean it to just this minute.

T. Billings posted a thread about the court papers surrounding Doug Graham’s 2009 arrest for money laundering. The post had links to the case files which can be found:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3v7d87Mx69HMEM5b2QxYXBUTkU/edit?pli=1

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3v7d87Mx69HR0x5cHUzY2NXMGs/edit

You can view the thread on 30badsucks here.

I think “money laundering” can be quite a confusing term…so below I am just going to sum up what the file says happened. Taken from the Arrest Affidavit it says:

“The def. Arrived at Miami Int. Airport on an international flight from Costa Rica…The Def, was stopped for a secondary inspection by C.B.P Officer Brisson after noticing he had checked “no” on question 13 of customs form 6059b (declaring he did not have over $10,000). At the secondary inspection, CNBP Officer asked the Def. How much money he was travelling with. The Def replied “A Few Hundred Bucks”. CBP Officer started checking the Def. Luggage and the Def. Dropped a fanny pack (strapped around his waist) and kicked it under the table. CBP officer asked the Def. For the fanny pack on the dloor and found a waist belt with money inside. The CBP Officer asked the Def. How much money he had in the waist belt and he said “$10,000”. CBP Officer then gave then Def. A Fincen Form 105 to declare how much he was travelling with. The Def. Filled out the form and wrote “$20,000”. A money verification was conducted and the Def. Was travelling with $26,052 which he did not declare. Def said he did not declare the money because he did not know he had to and he did not read the Customs form – Def. Arrested. “

The case files also include a warrant for Doug’s arrest after he didn’t show for trial.

As a result of this information being put out there, a thread soon appeared on Doug Graham’s vegsource board. Unfortunately I did not get a snap shot of this but if you read the comments over at 30badsucks you can see what was said or alternatively a copy was made here: http://mipalo.net/cgi-bin/rawer.pl?thread=100040485&mode=lowfi

To sum up what was posted – someone asked Doug about the arrest and linked to the 30badsucks site. Doug responded with “Sure, it was a set-up, a hoax. All charges were dropped. There was no court appearance. Why do you ask, dad, and who are you, may I ask?”

When prompted further Doug responded saying “I believe “all charges were dropped long before a court appearance could be scheduled” is more than sufficient answer. I don’t wield clout with the courts.“

There were some aggressive comments made and then just before the thread was deleted

Bern wrote: So are you saying you didn’t kick a fanny pack of $10,000 under a table at the airport? Is this the hoax?
And received the reply “Back off”.
“Bern” brings up a good point – what is Doug saying is the hoax/set up? Is he saying that he wasn’t searched at the airport – that the whole incident noted in the case files presented above – none of it actually happened?
Why didn’t Doug just own up to it happening and be honest?
What has this got to go with following a Raw Vegan diet? Well its not about the diet, its about the integrity of the person you are getting advice from. If Doug Graham can lie to the authorities, then it is likely he will lie to others including those he wishes to gain an income from. Doug already showed he was willing to push people off the scent of his past by saying that the whole incident was “a set-up, a hoax”. He also states “I believe “all charges were dropped long before a court appearance could be scheduled” is more than sufficient answer.” However I am confused, as the case files show a warrant for his arrest after he didn’t show for a trial. Stretching the truth?
It’s a shame because I was really hoping Doug would have had the graciousness and honesty to own up to what happened and explain it to the people he is suppose to care for particularly if they are seeking his advice on their health).
Well I will leave it up to you to decide how you feel about this information and whether it makes you question the integrity of Doug Graham “the guru”.

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Durianrider Makes Lies Up About Anthony Colpo

It is fairly well known that Durianrider likes to make lies up about his “competitors” or really anyone who has a differing opinion to him.  Unfortunately for DR, he got caught in the act thanks to the website 30bananasadaysucks.com

DR decided to make a post on 30bananasaday.com about Anthony Colpo taking steroids.  DR posted as “Adelaide Andy” and stated that he was Colpo’s drug dealer.  “Adelaide Andy” also states that Colpo is on welfare too.

Proof DR is Adelaide Andy

Before Durianrider got a chance to cover his tracks, the clever folk over at 30bananasadaysucks.com took screenshots to prove that the profile that made the post was infact one of Durianrider’s accounts.  Durianrider had forgotten to change the address bar for Adelaide Andy.  It still read www.30bananasaday.com/profile/vladimir(if you do a google search for this profile and look at the cached page you should see it as Calorierider which was Durianrider’s spoof account on his own website before changing it to Adelaide Andy).

Vladimir is a handle Durianrider has used on various websites he has trolled and from the comment section of the profile it is evident also that this is a spoof profile made up by Durianrider to have “some fun”.

On 30badsucks they show a screenshot to show the change in profile but with the Vladimir address bar intact.  See below:

 

The page from google cache that shows you Vladimir originally was Calorierider:

 

To further confirm this switch, if you go to the new profile which has now been changed to http://www.30bananasaday.com/profile/AndySA and go to Adelaide Andy’s comments you will notice someone refers to him as “Calorierider”.  See screenshot below:

Further proof can be found on the 30bananasadaysucks.com thread which you can get to by clicking here.

The Post Durianrider Created

So what exactly did Adelaide Andy say about Anthony Colpo. Below is a screenshot of what was said and the comments that went with it.

Anthony Colpo’s Response

Anthony Colpo, on discovering this made a post responding to Durianrider’s accusations. The post can be found here: http://anthonycolpo.com/?p=3667

Durianrider Tries to Cover Himself

Once Durianrider discovers Anthony Colpo’s post on his website, Durianrider tries to clear up the post he made by Adelaide Andy by adding in the word “apparently” every so often. He adds this to his responses too as himself.

You can see the post Durianrider wrote by going here: http://www.30bananasaday.com/forum/topics/anthony-colpo-is-a-steroid-user

As most threads on 30bad get deleted, I have taken screenshots below too.  I have also highlighted the bits Durianrider has reworded or added in.

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Death at Doug Graham’s Fasting Retreat: Jane Mutti MD

This post is about the Death of Jane Mutti on the Walking Tour at Doug Graham’s retreat.  Information for this post comes from this source, this source as well as from vegsource.com.  It is recommended that you read all 3 posts and all comments so that you can get a clear picture of the opinions and discussions around the death of Jane Mutti.

Woman Died on Walking Tour after Fasting 4 Weeks

Jane Mutti (65 years old) died while on the Walking Tour last year at Doug Graham’s retreat. She has fasted for 4 weeks prior and collapsed while doing the walk after 2 weeks refeeding.  Doug Graham’s assistant stated that the woman died due to a heart arrythmia that she did not disclose, however Jane Mutti was an MD so its hard to believe that she wouldn’t have known to disclose such an issue before attending the fasting retreat.
Despite blame being put on an undisclosed heart arrhythmia, on Doug Graham’s site he specifically states the following:

“There are many risks to water-only fasting and we want you to be aware of them prior to your decision to undertake a water-only fast. Because you will not be eating any food, you will most certainly experience weakness throughout the water fast, and lose weight. It can take some time after fasting to regain strength. A very common occurrence is dizziness and fainting, especially on rising from a laying or seating position. Other common and unpleasant symptoms are heart arrhythmia, palpitations, dehydration, nausea, vomiting, skin rashes, sore throat, mucus discharge, low back pain, increased menstrual flow, irregular or anovulatory cycles, hair loss, gastric irritation, passing of kidney or gall stones and emotional disturbances. There is also the possibility of alterations to your body’s basic mechanisms and electrolytes, which could cause heart problems such as a heart attack or vascular problems such as a stroke.” (http://www.foodnsport.com/events/fasting/CRFF2012application.php)

Quotations from the source of this information:

“There was a woman who died at Doug Graham’s Costa Rican walking tour last year after having fasted for four weeks. She was 65 years old. After having been on a deficient SAD diet for years and then water-only for a month, she collapsed while doing the Costa Rican walking tour after refeeding for two weeks which she should not have been doing as walking through those hills requires a pretty high level of fitness as I understand it’s a pretty tough trek through there. Dr. Alan Goldhamer of True North Fasting center wrote an article on his website saying that the post-fast was the most critical time of the fast and “over-extertion could be disasterous”.

“…Doug’s assistant explained what happened as this woman died due to a heart arrythmia that she did not “disclose” but this woman was a MD, so I have a hard time believing that she didn’t disclose it.”

The source also states that she contacted Doug Graham’s assistant for confirmation of the death:

“When I found out about Jane Mutti’s death the first thing I did was e-mail Doug assistant and ask if it was true. It was confirmed and I was asked not to say anything to anyone about it. I did not feel comfortable with this as people have a right to know if they are considering fasting there.”

Doug Graham mentioned her death here: http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/messages/100032793.html

He states:

Is it responsible that a care giver encourage someone who had just done a 3 week water fast to go on a physically challenging Walking Tour?  According to many, the refeeding period after a fast is the most crucial part of the entire fast.  If one refeeds too quickly or resumes activity too quickly this can be disastrous on one’s health.  Doug Graham, an “expert” when it comes to fasting, should know this.  Maybe money was a primary motif here over the health and well being of his “client”.

Doug Graham fobs off any responsibility for Jane and when questioned by others about what medical interventions, fasting protocols and supervision Doug has in place at his retreat he simply doesn’t answer these concerns.

As a result of not getting answers to questions or no concern really shown for proper fasting protocols, one poster concludes:

The vegsource post is worth reading thoroughly so you can come to your own conclusions about whether you think Doug was open and honest about the death in question and whether he did all that he could have in terms of fasting protocols, medical interventions etc.

Is Doug Lying?

Michele, the source of the posts above, also states that she attended a Culinary Week of Doug Graham’s in 2009, where someone asked him outright if anyone had died at his fasting retreat.  According to Michele, Doug states:

“When I was at Doug’s 80/10/10 Culinary class in Washington someone in class point blank asked Doug if anybody had ever died while fasting with him. (This was before the above-mentioned death) He asked him this in front of the whole class. Someone who was there confirmed that they remembered hearing what I heard: Doug said yes, a woman who didn’t “disclose” she had diabetes.”

Michele also reveals in the comment section of this post that the person who askedwas David O’Boyle, a personal trainer from Los Angeles.

On vegsource.com, Doug denies ever saying this and instead says:

On this post, Michele reveals an email she received from a person who was there when Jane Mutti died.  This email said:

“I was at both the fast and the walking tour. I am surprised that it took 6 months for this to come out. Your posts have some the the facts but not all of course. Did you speak to someone directly involved with the fast? I can’t believe Doug removed those posts! He is pretty much declaring himself guilty as charged. Really not right for anyone who is contemplating a fast with him. By the way, no one ever told us not to talk about it. On the whole is was not talked about at all. It was so very shocking and emotionally draining at the time. Still is

Well, yes, Grant certainly knows all the details as he was with Jane when she collapsed as was I. Doug has you fill out a medical history when you apply for the fast. This is the only medical form we filled out.  With Jane there were signs that all was not exactly right with her even without blood tests or revealed medical history. If I could see these problems why didn’t Doug or any of his staff? She did fast longer than 3 weeks, she didn’t eat anything illegal I am sure of this. It really seemed as though she died at the scene. I don’t think that being in the hospital under their care had anything to do with it. And she may had died regardless of what was done but what really, really bothers me is that Doug is not being honest about the situation. If he stretches the truth in this instance what else has he said that isn’t completely true. A lot of people are putting their trust in him. As did Jane. She was a really sweet person. ”

Michele also mentions in the comments that she conversed with Jane Mutti’s friend “Bunny”, who wrote about Jane’s death on her blog.  Michele writes:

“Bunny, Jane’s surviving mate, was writing about Jane’s death on her blog. That’s how I figured out who it was. I saw the posts, but it wasn’t until I went back to around when it happened that I saw that other 30bader’s already knew because they were interacting with her on FB about it.

But nobody was willing to say anything about it publicly.

Privately, Bunny shared with me that she felt that Jane’s death was somewhat her fault since if they had never gone there, it would never have happened.
Now, I realize people go through a lot of emotions when grieving. And guilt is one of them whether earned or not. My 18 year old cat just died and I’ve had to deal with my feelings of guilt because I knew he was old and had arthritis but didn’t realize he was so close to death and had I known, I would have been more mindful of him–sure, I still let him cuddle on my lap and pet him—but I was on the computer at the time and my mind was elsewhere. If I had known that it was his last days, I so would not have been on the computer.

So Bunny feeling guilty does not imply that she WAS guilty..it’s a natural part of the grieving process. But, it does show that despite “being on good terms” with Foodnsport after Jane’s death, I think intuitively she was second-guessing herself and I wonder if she wasn’t getting a lot of pressure from the Foodnsport team which was influencing her “being on good terms” with them, because they HAD to have her be on good terms with them. I wonder if she had support for whatever doubts she might have had about that….?

I believe that Bunny meant well and it’s clear she loved Jane deeply. I also wonder how good Bunny is at standing up for herself and setting boundaries. Not to mention that when you are grieving, you are especially vulnerable.

“Being on good terms” with Foodnsport isn’t saying as nice things about them as they hope it will–Elizabeth Smart ”was on good terms” with her kidnapper because mentally that’s what she needed to do to survive her situation. She later went on to describe her coping skills as “Stockholm Syndrome” where you bond and indentify with your oppressors in order to cope.

But, in the end, this really isn’t about Bunny or Jane because there were others and this is really about a PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR of DOUG that has spanned many years. Jane and Bunny’s story is just the last chapter in the whole saga.

It’s just only now all coming out. And I’m sure there’s more. BUT, people have to realize their ” lack of civil courage ..and  ”speak out against .. self-made idiots who think themselves high.”

Until that happens, people won’t be able to make good, educated decisions.
I mean, if you read Jane’s testimonial without knowing THE REST OF THE STORY fasting at Doug’s retreat sounds like a great idea.” 

Doug Still Uses Jane Mutti’s Testimonial

Despite this whole incident, Doug Graham still uses Jane Mutti’s testimonial on his site for water fasting.

Other posts (sources)  that mentioned Jane Mutti’s death include:

http://jean-roberta.livejournal.com/145383.html

http://lifecoachmary.com/blog/2011/02/is-there-ever-peace-in-heartbreak/

http://www.beyondveg.com/billings-t/special/raw-vegan-gurus.shtml

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Deleted Thread: Harout’s Weight Gain on 80/10/10 Diet

Harout is a 17 year old male who followed the diet for 8 months before asking for guidance on the 30 bananas a day cult website.

Harout’s thread on his experience has been deleted but thanks to freetheanimal.com, Harout’s post is there for you to read.

Taken from http://freetheanimal.com/2011/04/a-100-raw-vegan-success-story.html, Harout states that he suffered from:

Fat Gain

“I have received great benefits and realise the only downfall is that i have gained a significany amount of fat, but i accept the fact of my body storing up what its been missing for a few years now and i respect it..”

Acne

”Another con is slight acne on the forehead, being someone who never had acne in the past.”

Suffering Sports Performance

“Another thing i’d like to mention is that i used to be the fastest player on my basketball team. Played on A division for my traveling team while i was in high school and thats a good level. Now i play B cause i cannot keep up and even though i am in the starting five, i am not the top player of my team. I cant train as hard as i used to, the gained percentage of fat slows me down a bit.”

Harout also lists other problems he experienced on the diet on 30bananasadaysucks.com as well as 2 positives.  Below is a quotation from the post:

“Some of the problems:

  • Teeth Problems
  • Low Iron, even though my iron intake was higher than it used to be before raw.
  • Loss in Muscle Mass (Which i have recovered from)
  • Increase in BF % even though my exercise activity was higher than prior 811
  • Very poor performance in exercise, even though my calories were higher than prior 811. 
  • Very Bad Forehead acne, again – no acne before 811
  • Thin Hair , Unhealthy, Not thick
  • Facial Swelling
  • Would always get these severe cramps after eating certain fruits

Benefits of 811:

  • Fast Digestion,
  • No more bloating”

Despite these issues and despite having maintained the diet for 8 months, Harout makes excuses, saying that he knows it isn’t the lifestyle, its just his body must be detoxing. Freetheanimal.com does a great job at pointing out his “delusion” and denial of the facts. However it could be that Harout felt the need to be on guard knowing what the environment on 30 bananas a day is like. He genuinely just wanted help so maybe his approach as to not to blame the diet was to prevent people attacking and belitting him, as shaming and attacking those who doubt the diet is common place.

Unfortunately for Harout, Harley (Durianrider) just encouraged the delusion of the diet and offered no real help. Neither did other people on the site. All that was suggested was to keep doing what he was doing – that it wasn’t the diet at fault.

The comments in the post over at freetheanaimal.com are revealing of the cultish behavior of the 30 bananas a day forum and its members. If you look through enough you will also see Harout’s progress in terms of diet as he updates everyone.  He has also updated people of his current diet on 30bananasadaysucks.com here.

 

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Deleted Thread & Banning: Dr Gosia’s Request for Information

The 30 bananas a day cult is known for censoring/deleting posts that go against the 30 bananas a day diet or 80/10/10 diet as well as banning members who dare to question or comment on the diet in potentially a negative light elsewhere.

In the case of Dr Gosia, a respected Scientist on 30 bananas a day, her desire to find more out about people’s experiences on the 30 bananas a day diet led to her banning.

Simply put, Dr Gosia started a thread on 30bananasaday (see below) requesting data in support of the claims that the advice given out by the 30 bananas a day cult works.  Dr Gosia was looking for data from people who had followed the 30 bananas a day guidance for at least 6 months.  This gave members who had been at it for a good while to praise the diet they were following.

 

At the same time Dr Gosia set up a mirror post on 30bananasadaysucks.com, asking for data to support the claims that the 30 bananas a day cult advice doesn’t work.  You can read the thread here.

A few days later, the thread on 30 bananas a day was deleted and Dr Gosia banned from the cult website.

Its worth looking at the comments on the 30bananasadaysucks.com site to see Harley’s (30 bananas a day cult leader) opinion on the thread that Dr Gosia created.  It appears he feels quite threatened by her search for both positive AND negative reactions to the 30 bananas a day philosophy.

Harley’s opinion on Dr Gosia’s request for information:

He doesn’t really tell you why the thread is such a bad one but you can guess its because she wants to see both sides of the 80/10/10 diet.  She isn’t just seeking good stories, but also those hurt by the 30 bananas a day guidance.

 

 

Harley goes on via comments to try and discredit those who give their story of the negative experiences they had on the 30 bananas a day cult diet.

A fair banning and deletion of thread?  Hardly.  Why delete an inquiring thread on the positives of the 30 bananas a day diet? It seems to be a move for the preservation of the cult.  Dr Gosia showed she was a free-thinker, someone with a curious and inquiring mind.  As a result she had to go and so did her thread.

The group leaders know there are pitfuls to the diet they choose to promote – this is evident by the censoring and deletion of threads on weight gain, teeth issues as well as other problems.  This is also evident by their change in philosophy, once upon a time banning members for given guidance to eating cooked vegan foods, but recently promoting cooked vegan foods themselves (McDougall style) when people find it hard to maintain just raw fruits and vegetables.

The 30 bananas a day cult has no room for free thinkers and those who question the leaders opinions and “ethics”.  They need members to not question them because they do not have the education or intelligence to pull off adequate arguments to back up their claims of the perfect diet.  If they are questioned, they must censor quickly in order to avoid being found out and continue the charade – all for profit and ego.

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